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Declare War on Mexico


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To the illegals who think "A Day Without Latinos" is going to hurt the most powerful economy in the world:

Quit fooling yourself. The only economy you're hurting is your own, Mexico's. If you aren't at work you can't steal money from Americans to send home to your families. It's the fact that you've stolen a job from a law abiding citizen, don't pay taxes, drive up the cost of housing and burden our social and educational services that hurts the economy. Keep up the good work! As a matter of fact you should expand your efforts. Don't just have a single day without Latinos, how about "A Country Without Illegals"?

I'm willing to pay more for food picked by Americans. Perhaps we could have everyone on welfare go to work for Tyson Foods and the Gallo Winery after we deport the Illegal Invaders.

To the Native Americans who insist that us gringos are the real illegal aliens:

I was born here, my parents were born here, and my grandparents were all born here. I'm a Native American too, and state as much on every form I fill out that asks me. I do, however, support the right of tribal Native Americans to declare war on the United States if they want to. You can disavow your treaties just like Mexico.
Good Luck to you.
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It doesn't matter where you, your parents, your grandparents or even your great grandparents were born; that does NOT make you a native American in the sense that Native Americans are! They have such a title because they are INDIGENOUS to the land, meaning, when they arrived, there were no other people here. This is not the case with any other people living in America. Please do NOT think that I disagree with you regarding illegal immigration. This is another subject. I am AGAINST it because it presents a danger for everyone in this country. I don't support the "A day without Latinos" in any way, shape or form. I agree with you that I would also be willing to pay more for food picked by Americans. To require that immigrants be legal is not anything wrong or prejudicial. The United States can show compassion without being stupid. It is stupid NOT to protect our borders.  
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by Hannah (PM , CC ) on Monday May 1, 2006 @ 8:58 PM




Thanks for your post, but if I'm not a native American than just what country AM I native to? I understand that tribal Native Americans have a different status than myself, I was just responding to the rhetoric that we gringos need to go back to Europe, when in fact most of us have never been there. You can't send somebody back to a place they've never been to. I don't have anything against native Americans even though it may have sounded that way, but right or wrong they are a conquered people the same as the Irish, Scottish, Filipino, Taiwanese, Tibetan and any number of peoples around the world and if they want their country back they're gonna have to fight for it just like anyone else.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Monday May 1, 2006 @ 9:30 PM




I have written plenty about this as I live in Southern California and this affects me everyday. I was raised in Boston so I get the flip sign of the coin. I hate the extremist point of view saying that we are not justified in the possesion of this land. Give Mexico back to Spain then huh? Or wait, better yet, the point I make all of the time, NO ONE is indigenous to North and South America, Asia or Europe. We ALL come from Ethiopia. The only indigenous race to North America is T.Rex and the Bison. I am one eighth Blackfoot and I do not use that to get more out of life than I make for myself. I am tired of this bitching about whose land is whose. It doesn't belong to any of us. If they want California back then give it to them but we better destroy all of the infrastructure we have built up and invested in and give it back the way we found it - a barren shit hole of desert destruction. They are NOT getting Texas back unless they dig up General Santa Ana and we get to beat his corpse with a stick like a pinata on TV.

Good posts!

R.E. Knowlton III
 
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by r.e.knowltoniii (PM , CC ) on Monday May 1, 2006 @ 10:42 PM




Maybe we should ALL move back to Ethiopia, oh wait, that place sucks even more than Mexico. Never mind.
John
 
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Monday May 1, 2006 @ 10:59 PM




If you read my posts about you will know we are on the same page. The Ethiopa comment is meant to provide the ridiculous aspect of the Mexican rally cry that California is thiers anyway. Which it is obviously not. I hope you understood that.

You have a great blog going on. PLEASE keep it up!

R.E. Knowlton III
 
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by r.e.knowltoniii (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 12:15 AM




The real culprits are the oligarchs in both our countries (and around the world) who exploit all workers for the sake of excessive profit.
Here's a thought -- national boundaries are the #1 cause of warfare. Or maybe they share that honor with economic injustice.
Remember: we're all Earthlings.
 
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by LeahD (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 12:25 AM




I'm with ya' R.E., I just felt like being silly in the hopes that it might point out how silly some of these arguments can get.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 12:38 AM




Hey Leah, the best way to screw the oligarchs is not to work for them. I've worked for some very large companies and have decided that the best thing for me is to work for myself. I do it with the help of eBay, which one may argue is just another big oligarch, but what I make is at least mostly dependent on my efforts. The eBay pseudo-monopoly is an argument for another blog. The idea of no borders is nice, it just doesn't wash in the real world. If you think the U.N. is gonna pull us all together in a worldwide group hug you are bowing down to the same idiots who run the world now. I know you didn't mention the U.N. but I bring them up because they would just love a borderless world, because they would then be controlling it. As long as we have borders we need to defend them to keep the corruption in other countries from coming here while we deal with our own corrupt leaders. If we can lead by example maybe the world will follow, but honestly I have my doubts. In the meanwhile I think a nice big wall on our borders will do just fine.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 12:48 AM




Well, as long as most folks have the attitude that they can only take care of themselves, and that's all that should be expected of them, there will be exploitation, corruption, injustice, borders, and warfare. I'm not saying I have a plan to make all of that obsolete. I'm trying to get out of the system and off the grid myself, by finding a way to make a living at what I love to do, which is tell stories -- but I'll still have to cooperate with publishers and bookstores. I guess we have to do the best we can to declare our own independence WHILE working in whatever way is available to help others to do the same. I'm still looking for valid ways to undermine every form of oppression I can -- I think I can do better than just making a living off eBay or even self-publishing -- one way is by keeping the faith and spouting off about it.
And the UN won't work mostly because the oligarchs won't let it.
On immigration specifically though -- illegal immigrants mostly aren't taking decent jobs from "Americans" -- they're taking jobs that are themselves mostly illegal -- in violation of OSHA and other labor regulations -- and extremely low-paid. The employers also mostly fly under the IRS radar, as well.
I know that we need better border control partly because we've managed to make ourselves hated in so many places around the world -- it's not all justified hatred, though some of it is -- and now we have to live with it. But we're not going to improve national security for very long by building walls and letting people starve in other countries because we're so darn scared of the chickens that are coming home to roost.
We're like Maggie's Pa -- "...his bedroom window is made out of bricks; the National Guard stands around his door. Oh, I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more."
 
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by LeahD (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 1:10 AM




We have alot more in common than you may think Leah, but why is it our fault when people in other countries starve? Is it not the fault of their own governments that they are starving? I agree with you that unscrupulous employers in this country are a large part of the problem and we should start by going after them. I also know that blowing up Mexico would probably increase the numbers of Mexicans coming here, and in the current political climate we aren't going to attack Mexico. I further agree that some hatred of the US is justified. If it were up to me we would become isolationist (like we used to be, and like George Washington thought we should be) and let the rest of the world fend for themselves. When we help people in other countries it always comes with strings attached, like it or not, and that's where much of the resentment stems from.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 1:27 AM




One more thing, Leah. People are flawed, and as a general rule only think for themselves. There are exceptions to this, of course, but they will always be the exceptions. This has been true throughout history and is the reason ALL Utopian societies ALWAYS fail. If you think you can change that than you are doomed to failure. Many have tried before, and it is also the reason the UN will never successfully bring us all together. I'm not a war monger, just a realist who sees the writing on the wall. As an example, Mexicans don't come to this country because they want to help us pick tomatoes, clean or build our houses. They come here for their own self interests and the interests of their families. There's nothing wrong with wanting to do that and frankly, I don't blame them, but an invasion is an invasion. We have borders because we need them and while it may be true that some animosity towards the US is justified, I'm not sympathizing with some poor disenfranchised suicide bomber and if I get the chance I'm taking him out before he takes out me or mine. Self preservation isn't selfish.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 1:41 AM




I would say that a few utopian societies actually have succeeded (though not without some taint of corruption, because you're right about people being flawed -- let's call it original sin) I'd go with the Catholic Church as one of 'em -- and believe me, I know all the mud that can be slung at it, but in theory, and more often than not in practical fact, it has lived up to its utopian ideals. That's because the utopia is grounded in the absolute and eternal. I realize that realists may not have much patience with that sort of point of view, but I like it better than the constant round of injustice and suffering that realism often only turns its back on.
Enlightened self-interest won't cut it, ultimately -- enlightened common interest has a chance.
Anyhow, this is a more interesting discussion than I expected -- think I'll bookmark your blog.
If you ever have the time to read fiction, please visit my blog -- I'm trying to find honest, intelligent readers to give me some feedback on my work.
 
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by LeahD (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 1:52 AM




Hello.  
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by TheOutlander (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 1:34 PM




Dude, most Americans nowdays would never do the back-breaking labor that Mexicans gladly do.Have you ever spent a day picking crops in the field? 98 percent of soft-bellied Americans couldn't handle one day of that labor.  
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by BlackNapalm (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 2:08 PM




That's a bunch of garbage. I've done my share of fieldwork, and it instilled in me a need to better myself. Yeah, it sucked, but I was young and able to take it. We could empty the welfare rolls and kick out the illegals simultaneously. What a concept!  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 2:16 PM




Here's another thought. I'll agree with you that a large percentage of Americans are fat and lazy. There's no denying it. I also think it would be a great idea to force out the poor exploited immigrant worker and begin feeding ourselves again. The price of food will rise, and then folks will have to get off their fat asses and grow some of their own food. We used to do it, remember Victory gardens? It was wartime and we were all told to start our own gardens so the soldiers could be fed. Well, we're at war again like it or not, and it's high time the American people realized it. We may not have to feed our troops, this time we have to feed ourselves while we repel the foreign invasion. It's happening on our own soil instead of Europe this time, so it's even more important. I understand you may not want to face it, but sometimes reality sucks.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 2:31 PM




DWOM, I CC'd this to BN because he seems to be the only one on here that has his head screwed on straight. I'm not saying we shouldn't deal with the problem with illegal aliens but I agree with Napalm that no one else is going to do this work. Not the people that live in this country anyway. I've worked at migrant camps and these people are humble and willing to do what even our welfare people refuse to do. You can disagree with me but I've worked with the system for 20 years and there isn't much you can throw at me that I haven't seen. There has to be a better answer than just summarily dismissing them.

Besides that, and I know Napalm will agree with this, there are so many people on this here blogstream that are so opposed to the war in Iraq that I don't think you are going to convince many of them that declaring war on a country that is practically on top of our own is a good idea.

Can't we find another answer to the problems that plaque our world? I am the first to say that sometimes, in the case of a Hitler type, war may be necessary to stop the insanity....yet, this is not war. This is a problem. Let's try working it out with laws and conversation. Didn't you learn anything from your Mommy?
 
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by prisonerofhope (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 2:54 PM




My mommy and my first grade teacher taught me that there is no difference between a war and an invasion, except that if those being invaded don't consider it to be a war than they become the conquered people. I would further add that a "problem" at home is more important than a tin pot dictator on the other side of the world.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 3:21 PM




If you don't want to call it an invasion, fine, but check this out before you make your decision -
http://www.idawg.com/aztlan.wmv
 
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 3:31 PM




Faced with the reality of working hard labor in the fields (I liken it to harder labor than even prison workers face) or continuing on welfare, most Americans would choose welfare. I agree that the system is failing. But wouldn't a better option be giving work visas to illegals, making it legal for them to work here, and then reap the added benefits of collecting their income tax?  
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by BlackNapalm (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 7:18 PM




Check this out, some say there are about 20,000,000 illegals here. If we charged "illegals" $500 for a five-year work visa, and even just half of them took us up on that offer, that would bring in $2.5 billion every five years. That and the added money from collecting their income taxes would be huge.

There are advantages to our economy to having illegals working here legally.
 
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by BlackNapalm (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 7:25 PM




Maybe we shouldn't give welfare recipients the choice. Everyone wants to talk about the poor tomato pickers, but are we too spoiled to work in the construction, meat packing, landscaping, housekeeping, and food preparations industries too? The explosion of dirt cheap labor is what has caused the explosion of factory farms at the expense of small family businesses.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 7:25 PM




I'm sure the CEO of Tyson's Chicken could give me a long list of why we need illegals, and my response would be that we don't need him or his traitorous company.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 7:28 PM




C'mon, dude, in a multi-trillion dollar economy, 2.5 billion every five years isn't a drop in the bucket.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 7:30 PM




Like I said, Napalm is the only one here whose head is screwed on straight.

I'm sorry, the 'invasion' thing is ludicrous. They are coming here to WORK, helllloooooooo, to do things that we won't dirty our precious hands, and break our delicate backs to do......

Keep preachin' this insanity and you'll have Whitablogstreammaster or MokiecrazymanJoe jumping down your throat.....believe me, THEN you'll be sorry!
 
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by prisonerofhope (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 7:39 PM




I welcome the criticism because I have logic, not emotion on my side. Have you looked at the link to the movie I posted earlier? - http://www.idawg.com/aztlan.wmv - Probably not, because you would have to take your blinders off.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 7:43 PM




Yes, it's only a drop in the bucket, that's true, but it beats the alternative: And that is American economy would simply collapse without the work of illegals.  
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by BlackNapalm (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 8:23 PM




Sorry, but you give them WAY too much credit.  
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Tuesday May 2, 2006 @ 9:07 PM




Hey I keep seeing the argument that us lazy americans wont do the work that the illegals do for us. Here the solution... for every illegal that stays, one fat lazy american must go... comb the unemployed population and if someone refuses to do labor, send there ass packing. Either way you look at it we have 12 million people in this country who are a burden on our society and economy and they need to go, whether mexican of fat lazy white folk  
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by penname (PM , CC ) on Wednesday May 3, 2006 @ 12:27 PM




If anyone's wondering why I haven't posted here lately it's because I've been working on my own blog host. It's finally done, (mostly) and you may see it at http://rantnation.com. Hope to see you there!
John
 
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by DeclareWarOnMexico (PM , CC ) on Monday May 15, 2006 @ 3:26 AM




Perhaps we can learn from our neighbors to the south. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.
Mexico has one law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants
are:
In the country legally;
Have the means to sustain themselves economically;
Not destined to be burdens on society;
Of economic and social benefit to society;
Of good character and have no criminal records; and
contributors to the general well-being of the nation.
The law also ensures that:
Immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
Foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
Foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
Foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
Foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
Those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.

Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens -- and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and legal.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)
Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)
Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)
The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)
Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

"A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)
Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported. (Article 126)
Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

Let's see.....I think that just about covers it, don't you think?.
This way there won't be any hard feelings.
Blessings
Bev



 
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